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	<title>Comments on: An Open Letter to the IT Department about Firefox</title>
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	<description>Libraries, Technology and People by Michael Stephens</description>
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		<title>By: Brinxmat</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2007/10/16/an-open-letter-to-the-it-department-about-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Brinxmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no affiliation with this company, but my colleague uses this to circumnavigate IT services: http://portableapps.com It&#039;s not just Firefox either, it&#039;s lots of things; XAMMP on USB Flash memory, anyone? 

Otherwise, insist on using an operating system other than MS Windows, this seems to deter IT services from wanting to know you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no affiliation with this company, but my colleague uses this to circumnavigate IT services: <a href="http://portableapps.com" rel="nofollow">http://portableapps.com</a> It&#8217;s not just Firefox either, it&#8217;s lots of things; XAMMP on USB Flash memory, anyone? </p>
<p>Otherwise, insist on using an operating system other than MS Windows, this seems to deter IT services from wanting to know you.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am jaded and cynical. Until about five years ago the Public ibrary I work in had their own IT person. This person was a librarian as well as a self taught computer guru. That person was me. My attitude about my position as the IT person at the library was that I was there to help people do their jobs, to give patrons electronic access to information and to balance that mission with the need to secure the computers. 

A new town manager came in and decided that all IT should and would be done by the town IT department.  My feeling is that a certain type of IT person wants control and is not interested in supporting the work that should and could be done. They also have such an exagerated idea of security needs that anything new or different seems like a threat to them. I have often said that if our IT department in town protected their houses as they protect our computers their houses would have bars on all the windows, triple and quadruple locks on all doors and the roll down metal door over the garage door.

So we too had this same discussion about alternate browsers for testing our webpages. No luck it&#039;s been 3 years at least. Logic does not work because you are operating on two different systems of beliefs. What seems logical to one system is dangerous in another. 

We have gotten to be experts at working around the restrictions placed on us by our IT department that does not understand our mission.   we use http://browsershots.org/  to test our website in different browsers.

We are talking about using Meebo to offer IM reference since we can&#039;t install IM applications on our computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am jaded and cynical. Until about five years ago the Public ibrary I work in had their own IT person. This person was a librarian as well as a self taught computer guru. That person was me. My attitude about my position as the IT person at the library was that I was there to help people do their jobs, to give patrons electronic access to information and to balance that mission with the need to secure the computers. </p>
<p>A new town manager came in and decided that all IT should and would be done by the town IT department.  My feeling is that a certain type of IT person wants control and is not interested in supporting the work that should and could be done. They also have such an exagerated idea of security needs that anything new or different seems like a threat to them. I have often said that if our IT department in town protected their houses as they protect our computers their houses would have bars on all the windows, triple and quadruple locks on all doors and the roll down metal door over the garage door.</p>
<p>So we too had this same discussion about alternate browsers for testing our webpages. No luck it&#8217;s been 3 years at least. Logic does not work because you are operating on two different systems of beliefs. What seems logical to one system is dangerous in another. </p>
<p>We have gotten to be experts at working around the restrictions placed on us by our IT department that does not understand our mission.   we use <a href="http://browsershots.org/" rel="nofollow">http://browsershots.org/</a>  to test our website in different browsers.</p>
<p>We are talking about using Meebo to offer IM reference since we can&#8217;t install IM applications on our computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brinxmat</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2007/10/16/an-open-letter-to-the-it-department-about-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>Brinxmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since this is ongoing, I feel OK about commenting: I recommend mentioning the following to a) the IT people, and b) your boss:

Why are IT services employed? To hinder valid work, or to provide support so that you can do your work? It isn&#039;t up to IT services to decide how you will work with your students, it&#039;s up to the teaching staff. It might be up to IT people to find out how to get the functions you want onto their chosen platform, but whining about security just demonstrates that they have made the foolish mistake of installing less-than-par operating systems that do not tolerate connection to networks.

By dictating what a user can or cannot do when working, they are not doing their job, they are proving their inability to provide proper support to help users get their work done, as well as their ineptitude when it comes to IT management. Good enough reasons to give them the old heave-ho if this persists.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this is ongoing, I feel OK about commenting: I recommend mentioning the following to a) the IT people, and b) your boss:</p>
<p>Why are IT services employed? To hinder valid work, or to provide support so that you can do your work? It isn&#8217;t up to IT services to decide how you will work with your students, it&#8217;s up to the teaching staff. It might be up to IT people to find out how to get the functions you want onto their chosen platform, but whining about security just demonstrates that they have made the foolish mistake of installing less-than-par operating systems that do not tolerate connection to networks.</p>
<p>By dictating what a user can or cannot do when working, they are not doing their job, they are proving their inability to provide proper support to help users get their work done, as well as their ineptitude when it comes to IT management. Good enough reasons to give them the old heave-ho if this persists.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2007/10/16/an-open-letter-to-the-it-department-about-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At our college you don&#039;t see Firefox on staff machines ~unless~ you wander over to the IT building or into the server room. Does the same hold true at Dominican &amp; other institutions?  This familiarity on the part of the folks who matter seemed to ease its installation on at least a couple staff computers here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At our college you don&#8217;t see Firefox on staff machines ~unless~ you wander over to the IT building or into the server room. Does the same hold true at Dominican &#038; other institutions?  This familiarity on the part of the folks who matter seemed to ease its installation on at least a couple staff computers here.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once ran Firefox off a USB drive for a period of several years, while working for a company with an inflexible IT department. It worked very well, and I don&#039;t think anyone was ever the wiser! Still, I hope your request is solved in a more satisfactory manner. For any kind of web development purposes, you really need access to multiple browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once ran Firefox off a USB drive for a period of several years, while working for a company with an inflexible IT department. It worked very well, and I don&#8217;t think anyone was ever the wiser! Still, I hope your request is solved in a more satisfactory manner. For any kind of web development purposes, you really need access to multiple browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we&#039;re lucky - at our academic library FF &amp; IE are both on all computers (staff and public).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;re lucky &#8211; at our academic library FF &#038; IE are both on all computers (staff and public).</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2007/10/16/an-open-letter-to-the-it-department-about-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-O

OMG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:-O</p>
<p>OMG</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michael-

As the &quot;IT department&quot; at my library we offer both IE and Firefox, but also our computers are protected so that they allow *any and all* downloads until they are restarted - which then wipes the hard drive back to its original state.  So, virtually any browser can be used.  How does this help?  Well it doesn&#039;t - but it brings up another question that needs to be thought about: the relationship between the library/librarian and the IT department.  A pivotal one in my humble opinion.  If future librarians want to be successful in the digital realm, they&#039;ll have to cultivate this relationship not with brownie points and luck, but with understanding of the ITs viewpoint.  I think if you can foster a good relationship with IT, you&#039;ll have further success down the road with anything from Firefox installs to MySql database help.

As for your letter, I think it is spot on.  Cordial and with some pedagogical reasoning for why your app needs to be installed.  I good representation of how to spark a relationship with IT.

~Kyle~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael-</p>
<p>As the &#8220;IT department&#8221; at my library we offer both IE and Firefox, but also our computers are protected so that they allow *any and all* downloads until they are restarted &#8211; which then wipes the hard drive back to its original state.  So, virtually any browser can be used.  How does this help?  Well it doesn&#8217;t &#8211; but it brings up another question that needs to be thought about: the relationship between the library/librarian and the IT department.  A pivotal one in my humble opinion.  If future librarians want to be successful in the digital realm, they&#8217;ll have to cultivate this relationship not with brownie points and luck, but with understanding of the ITs viewpoint.  I think if you can foster a good relationship with IT, you&#8217;ll have further success down the road with anything from Firefox installs to MySql database help.</p>
<p>As for your letter, I think it is spot on.  Cordial and with some pedagogical reasoning for why your app needs to be installed.  I good representation of how to spark a relationship with IT.</p>
<p>~Kyle~</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me predict their answer. Firefox is an open source browser and could be hacked thus negating any security we have placed on networked computers.

(Answer I received when trying to place firefox on public library computers.)

Portable apps off a flash drive work on our public access computers. If the firewall is too restrictive, they may not allow it. Furthermore, the latest firefox upgrade (to correct a bug in quicktime) further requires a lowering of the firewall. Causing other problems.

Try the portable apps route. It works for us here and we sell flash drives. Easiest workaround so far. Plus if students personalize it, they can take it anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me predict their answer. Firefox is an open source browser and could be hacked thus negating any security we have placed on networked computers.</p>
<p>(Answer I received when trying to place firefox on public library computers.)</p>
<p>Portable apps off a flash drive work on our public access computers. If the firewall is too restrictive, they may not allow it. Furthermore, the latest firefox upgrade (to correct a bug in quicktime) further requires a lowering of the firewall. Causing other problems.</p>
<p>Try the portable apps route. It works for us here and we sell flash drives. Easiest workaround so far. Plus if students personalize it, they can take it anywhere.</p>
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