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	<title>Comments on: An SJCPL Librarian Responds to Mishawaka&#8217;s Ban</title>
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		<title>By: Rico Suave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico Suave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not about teens, per se; however, it is about teens (young adults) that have absolutely no respect for the library, for other patrons, or for anyone who they view as &quot;figures of authority.&quot; 
I have no problem with teens using myspace. The problem I have is with teens that are seeking to do nothing more than use myspace (free computers) and could care less about the rest of the library/patrons. THOSE teens do not wait patiently for their turn to use the computers, no - since they have no interest in any other part of the library, they use their &quot;waiting&quot; time to run all over the place and cause all kind of disturbances. 

The public library I work for does not do enough to have separate areas for teens. I believe that if the teens that come to my public library had their own separate space where they were simply allowed to &quot;be teens,&quot; then their wold be much less friction, for lack of a better word, between the adults and youth.

What I mean by &quot;allowed to be teens,&quot; is not simply just setting up an out of the way area where there are no rules. I view it more as an area where rules are still enforced, but some tolerance is allowed, knowing that young adults behave differently with one-another in a social setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not about teens, per se; however, it is about teens (young adults) that have absolutely no respect for the library, for other patrons, or for anyone who they view as &#8220;figures of authority.&#8221;<br />
I have no problem with teens using myspace. The problem I have is with teens that are seeking to do nothing more than use myspace (free computers) and could care less about the rest of the library/patrons. THOSE teens do not wait patiently for their turn to use the computers, no &#8211; since they have no interest in any other part of the library, they use their &#8220;waiting&#8221; time to run all over the place and cause all kind of disturbances. </p>
<p>The public library I work for does not do enough to have separate areas for teens. I believe that if the teens that come to my public library had their own separate space where they were simply allowed to &#8220;be teens,&#8221; then their wold be much less friction, for lack of a better word, between the adults and youth.</p>
<p>What I mean by &#8220;allowed to be teens,&#8221; is not simply just setting up an out of the way area where there are no rules. I view it more as an area where rules are still enforced, but some tolerance is allowed, knowing that young adults behave differently with one-another in a social setting.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for posting this - I work in a library where the director has stated that it is her -goal- to get rid of the teens, and repeatedly stated that she hates teens.  Without them, the library is deadly quiet - 4 staff to 2 patrons quiet, yet the director and the other library staff prefer that situation to the slightest disturbance. As the new young adult librarian, I apparently wasn&#039;t kicking them out quickly enough (trying to work with them to create a more tenable situation), and so a &quot;bouncer&quot; was hired. And now we have 5 staff to 2 patrons. Sigh - but this post gives me a bit of hope and some fodder for thought about creating a situation where the space can be shared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for posting this &#8211; I work in a library where the director has stated that it is her -goal- to get rid of the teens, and repeatedly stated that she hates teens.  Without them, the library is deadly quiet &#8211; 4 staff to 2 patrons quiet, yet the director and the other library staff prefer that situation to the slightest disturbance. As the new young adult librarian, I apparently wasn&#8217;t kicking them out quickly enough (trying to work with them to create a more tenable situation), and so a &#8220;bouncer&#8221; was hired. And now we have 5 staff to 2 patrons. Sigh &#8211; but this post gives me a bit of hope and some fodder for thought about creating a situation where the space can be shared.</p>
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