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	<title>Comments on: SJCPL&#8217;s &#8220;Ray of Light&#8221; Removed from YouTube</title>
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		<title>By: SJCPL’s “Ray of Light” Removed from YouTube &#124; Library Stuff</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-10275</link>
		<dc:creator>SJCPL’s “Ray of Light” Removed from YouTube &#124; Library Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tame The Web &#8211; &#8220;It’s NOT fair use under current copyright law for the simple fact we used the entire song plus Smashmouth’s “All Star”, so I’m considering this as the best course of action: I’ll delete the audio or choose some innocuous track YouTube supplies and then instruct folks to queue up and play Madonna’s “Ray of Light” and watch the video that way (although Greg Schwartz suggested “Dark Side of the Moon” &#8211; a fascinating choice as well). That way we can keep the video up for folks to see an maybe adapt the concept in some way for their libraries.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tame The Web &#8211; &#8220;It’s NOT fair use under current copyright law for the simple fact we used the entire song plus Smashmouth’s “All Star”, so I’m considering this as the best course of action: I’ll delete the audio or choose some innocuous track YouTube supplies and then instruct folks to queue up and play Madonna’s “Ray of Light” and watch the video that way (although Greg Schwartz suggested “Dark Side of the Moon” &#8211; a fascinating choice as well). That way we can keep the video up for folks to see an maybe adapt the concept in some way for their libraries.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8969</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the video still available anywhere, without the ROL soundtrack?  My Google fu is failing me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the video still available anywhere, without the ROL soundtrack?  My Google fu is failing me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: More on the EU music copyright term extension &#171; Multi-faceted</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8628</link>
		<dc:creator>More on the EU music copyright term extension &#171; Multi-faceted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] allow much in the way of fair or non-commercial use. For example Tame The Web recently reported that a parody of Madonna&#8217;s Ray of Light publicising a library on Youtube had been taken down. The library in question tried to do the right thing and contacted Warner Brothers to request [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] allow much in the way of fair or non-commercial use. For example Tame The Web recently reported that a parody of Madonna&#8217;s Ray of Light publicising a library on Youtube had been taken down. The library in question tried to do the right thing and contacted Warner Brothers to request [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Michael Kellat</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8583</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Michael Kellat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A long form response to this post was written at http://erielookingproductions.info/archives/2009/01/25/index.html#e2009-01-25T16_05_02.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A long form response to this post was written at <a href="http://erielookingproductions.info/archives/2009/01/25/index.html#e2009-01-25T16_05_02.txt" rel="nofollow">http://erielookingproductions.info/archives/2009/01/25/index.html#e2009-01-25T16_05_02.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cycholibrarian</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8572</link>
		<dc:creator>Cycholibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just one more example of how our copyright laws no longer work. When any work can be reproduced perfectly with virtually no cost, artists need to understand that they cannot control every instance of their work anymore.  Not only that, they can&#039;t expect to be paid for every instance of their work either.

I think that the copyright laws need to shift from attempting to guarantee the artist&#039;s total control of their work to governing the behavior of those who use the work.  Clearly, this instance of &quot;Ray of Light&quot; is not an abuse of the original work, and in fact can reasonably be construed as a sort of homage.  But if I were to perform it in a stadium for people who paid $50 each to hear it, it would be.  The law needs to be concerned with the latter and not the former, and in settling the vague cases in the middle.

As to how artists make money from their work in this model, I think Radiohead&#039;s &quot;In Rainbows&quot; is a perfect example.  Fans had the ability to pay for the work or not.  More people downloaded it for free than paid for it, but enough people paid for it that Radiohead made more money from the release than they would have through the traditional methods.  It&#039;s almost a democratized form of the old patronage system.  Instead of a wealthy noble paying to have the artist produce for them, those fans of the artist who wish to contribute do.  It&#039;s scary to anyone who was used to the predictable returns of the traditional system, but as with anything digital/Internet/2.0 we&#039;re dealing with numbers that are still too vast for us to comprehend.  How can Radiohead make millions when the average amount people paid was less than $5 and most didn&#039;t pay at all?  Because an immense number of people paid that $5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just one more example of how our copyright laws no longer work. When any work can be reproduced perfectly with virtually no cost, artists need to understand that they cannot control every instance of their work anymore.  Not only that, they can&#8217;t expect to be paid for every instance of their work either.</p>
<p>I think that the copyright laws need to shift from attempting to guarantee the artist&#8217;s total control of their work to governing the behavior of those who use the work.  Clearly, this instance of &#8220;Ray of Light&#8221; is not an abuse of the original work, and in fact can reasonably be construed as a sort of homage.  But if I were to perform it in a stadium for people who paid $50 each to hear it, it would be.  The law needs to be concerned with the latter and not the former, and in settling the vague cases in the middle.</p>
<p>As to how artists make money from their work in this model, I think Radiohead&#8217;s &#8220;In Rainbows&#8221; is a perfect example.  Fans had the ability to pay for the work or not.  More people downloaded it for free than paid for it, but enough people paid for it that Radiohead made more money from the release than they would have through the traditional methods.  It&#8217;s almost a democratized form of the old patronage system.  Instead of a wealthy noble paying to have the artist produce for them, those fans of the artist who wish to contribute do.  It&#8217;s scary to anyone who was used to the predictable returns of the traditional system, but as with anything digital/Internet/2.0 we&#8217;re dealing with numbers that are still too vast for us to comprehend.  How can Radiohead make millions when the average amount people paid was less than $5 and most didn&#8217;t pay at all?  Because an immense number of people paid that $5.</p>
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		<title>By: SJCPL’s “Ray of Light” Removed from YouTube : RateJamaica</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8569</link>
		<dc:creator>SJCPL’s “Ray of Light” Removed from YouTube : RateJamaica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tame The Web - “It’s NOT fair use under current copyright law for the simple fact we used the entire song plus Smashmouth’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tame The Web &#8211; “It’s NOT fair use under current copyright law for the simple fact we used the entire song plus Smashmouth’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: a.t.</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8567</link>
		<dc:creator>a.t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fair Use&quot;  - Anything can be used for parody or for education.  

Thats my def.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fair Use&#8221;  &#8211; Anything can be used for parody or for education.  </p>
<p>Thats my def.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/01/24/sjcpls-ray-of-light-removed-from-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-8565</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been interested in Copyright events for awhile.  It most certainly affects your ability to be creative.

http://youtomb.mit.edu/about
Maybe you&#039;ll make it in here as part of their project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in Copyright events for awhile.  It most certainly affects your ability to be creative.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtomb.mit.edu/about" rel="nofollow">http://youtomb.mit.edu/about</a><br />
Maybe you&#8217;ll make it in here as part of their project.</p>
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