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	<title>Comments on: Screencasting Patron POVs, a TTW Guest Post by Mick Jacobsen</title>
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		<title>By: Friday Link Round Up &#171; ellie &#60;3 libraries</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9722</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Link Round Up &#171; ellie &#60;3 libraries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Screencasting Patron POVs, a TTW Guest Post by Mick Jacobsen [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mick Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9719</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

Yes we can provide both.  But will both be watched? If so, by all means do both. 

Having screencasts at the point of need is a big issue.  A zero return search in an OPAC could perhaps bring up a list of tutorials along with a chat widget?  Databases are more difficult.  We are not extensively mentioning the databases at all, just the questions the databases answer.  

As I mentioned in a previous comment academic libraries may have a different view on this than public.

Thanks,
Mick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>Yes we can provide both.  But will both be watched? If so, by all means do both. </p>
<p>Having screencasts at the point of need is a big issue.  A zero return search in an OPAC could perhaps bring up a list of tutorials along with a chat widget?  Databases are more difficult.  We are not extensively mentioning the databases at all, just the questions the databases answer.  </p>
<p>As I mentioned in a previous comment academic libraries may have a different view on this than public.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Mick</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Karlsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Karlsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important, though, to provide both, and there&#039;s no reason we can&#039;t do so. Quick screencasts demonstrating how to solve particular problems, and more methodical demonstrations of database features (as an alternative to what are usually poor materials supplied by the vendor).  A key question, though, is making sure users can easily find the tutorial they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important, though, to provide both, and there&#8217;s no reason we can&#8217;t do so. Quick screencasts demonstrating how to solve particular problems, and more methodical demonstrations of database features (as an alternative to what are usually poor materials supplied by the vendor).  A key question, though, is making sure users can easily find the tutorial they need.</p>
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		<title>By: The Distant Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Distant Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Screencasts from the Patron&#039;s Point of View...&lt;/strong&gt;

Over on Tame the Web, Mick Jacobsen describes how he decided to produce his screencasts not from the librarian point of view, but from the Patron Point of View (PPOV). Which video do you think would be viewed more: Learn......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Screencasts from the Patron&#8217;s Point of View&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Over on Tame the Web, Mick Jacobsen describes how he decided to produce his screencasts not from the librarian point of view, but from the Patron Point of View (PPOV). Which video do you think would be viewed more: Learn&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9667</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Linda,
I would ask the reference librarians what are the resources most used.  

My limited experience in academic librarianship would suggest CQ Researcher.  That is a perfect database to do PPOV tutorials.  Instead of how to search CQ Researcher you can do a few questions such as finding information on abortion, immigration, legalization of drugs, racism, etc (the normal topics for undergrads).  You could conceivable do just one tutorial and then say at the beginning/title by the way this will work for other questions too.  Instead of touring your OPAC do a title search, do a keyword search, do a author search, etc. 

Talk to the professors.  What papers do they receive most?  Talk to the students. What would help them.  Do not consider these tutorials as a one semester job, but an evolving document.  It would  be cool if you could get students to help write/design them?  

The PPOV works for me.  I think it could work for you as well. 

Mick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linda,<br />
I would ask the reference librarians what are the resources most used.  </p>
<p>My limited experience in academic librarianship would suggest CQ Researcher.  That is a perfect database to do PPOV tutorials.  Instead of how to search CQ Researcher you can do a few questions such as finding information on abortion, immigration, legalization of drugs, racism, etc (the normal topics for undergrads).  You could conceivable do just one tutorial and then say at the beginning/title by the way this will work for other questions too.  Instead of touring your OPAC do a title search, do a keyword search, do a author search, etc. </p>
<p>Talk to the professors.  What papers do they receive most?  Talk to the students. What would help them.  Do not consider these tutorials as a one semester job, but an evolving document.  It would  be cool if you could get students to help write/design them?  </p>
<p>The PPOV works for me.  I think it could work for you as well. </p>
<p>Mick</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great idea. We definitely need to start providing tutorials on the specific aspects of our databases. Instead of saying, here is how to use Ebsco Masterfile Premier, we should be saying, here is how to find consumer reports on the library&#039;s webpage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great idea. We definitely need to start providing tutorials on the specific aspects of our databases. Instead of saying, here is how to use Ebsco Masterfile Premier, we should be saying, here is how to find consumer reports on the library&#8217;s webpage.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9658</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mick,
I am happy I read this post. This summer, I will be starting a project writing tutorials. I would have given the basic &quot;walk through&quot; some of our databases, until I read your post. Thank you! 

I am in an academic institution, a community college in eastern Iowa.  Since this is my first attemp at writing tutorials, I would love to hear how you decided what the tutorials should be about and any other information and tips that would be helpful for a newbie. I have worked here since 1993, but just graduated from the University of Wisconsin--Madison SLIS. Thank you in advance for your advice and expertise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mick,<br />
I am happy I read this post. This summer, I will be starting a project writing tutorials. I would have given the basic &#8220;walk through&#8221; some of our databases, until I read your post. Thank you! </p>
<p>I am in an academic institution, a community college in eastern Iowa.  Since this is my first attemp at writing tutorials, I would love to hear how you decided what the tutorials should be about and any other information and tips that would be helpful for a newbie. I have worked here since 1993, but just graduated from the University of Wisconsin&#8211;Madison SLIS. Thank you in advance for your advice and expertise!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9654</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrons want answers at the point of need. In that respect we&#039;re the same, academic and public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrons want answers at the point of need. In that respect we&#8217;re the same, academic and public.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9653</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jennifer,
Glad you liked it.  You are exactly correct.  Patrons generally don&#039;t want to learn boolean logic they want to find articles about their mom&#039;s upcoming surgery!  So how can we really help?

This may be different in an academic library setting...

Mick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jennifer,<br />
Glad you liked it.  You are exactly correct.  Patrons generally don&#8217;t want to learn boolean logic they want to find articles about their mom&#8217;s upcoming surgery!  So how can we really help?</p>
<p>This may be different in an academic library setting&#8230;</p>
<p>Mick</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Roach</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Roach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what I have been exploring lately. Nice to see you express the concept so well. By making your screencasts answer a specific question, they are relevant to the viewer. If you need to make a few more videos, no problem. Better to make several videos that are meaningful, than to make one all encompassing video that well, gets turned off at the 3 minute mark anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what I have been exploring lately. Nice to see you express the concept so well. By making your screencasts answer a specific question, they are relevant to the viewer. If you need to make a few more videos, no problem. Better to make several videos that are meaningful, than to make one all encompassing video that well, gets turned off at the 3 minute mark anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/04/30/screencasting-patron-pov-a-ttw-guest-post-by-mick-jacobsen/comment-page-1/#comment-9651</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other good articles I didn&#039;t mention.  
http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6650840.html
http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6626746.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other good articles I didn&#8217;t mention.<br />
<a href="http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6650840.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6650840.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6626746.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6626746.html</a></p>
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