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	<title>Comments on: Signs Signs Everywhere!</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Middlemass</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/11/09/signs-signs-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-12268</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Middlemass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This made me have a wave of nostalgia for the first version our library put out in the 1980&#039;s.  Printed in friendly pink, it started with &quot;Welcome to the Library&quot; and followed up with a BOLDED list of &quot;no&#039;s.&quot;  I immediately dubbed it the &quot;Welcome to the Library and F*#%k Off&quot; sign. 

Fortunately we don&#039;t use it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me have a wave of nostalgia for the first version our library put out in the 1980&#8217;s.  Printed in friendly pink, it started with &#8220;Welcome to the Library&#8221; and followed up with a BOLDED list of &#8220;no&#8217;s.&#8221;  I immediately dubbed it the &#8220;Welcome to the Library and F*#%k Off&#8221; sign. </p>
<p>Fortunately we don&#8217;t use it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/11/09/signs-signs-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-12260</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with phones is not the talking, but the constant ringing.  I still do not know why a cell phone on one&#039;s person has a ring that can be heard from the outside but most do and the problem with food of course is the spills.  No one cleans up after themselves and we have a janitor who only cleans the bathrooms.  Our library is just plain dirty.  

I work in a public library, small no side rooms.  I would love a room where people can sit, have coffee, talk on the phone if they wish, read a magazine (Oh what magazine? stolen already) It is a different world than when I became a librarian,
I am there to help, but hate the policing part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with phones is not the talking, but the constant ringing.  I still do not know why a cell phone on one&#8217;s person has a ring that can be heard from the outside but most do and the problem with food of course is the spills.  No one cleans up after themselves and we have a janitor who only cleans the bathrooms.  Our library is just plain dirty.  </p>
<p>I work in a public library, small no side rooms.  I would love a room where people can sit, have coffee, talk on the phone if they wish, read a magazine (Oh what magazine? stolen already) It is a different world than when I became a librarian,<br />
I am there to help, but hate the policing part.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Smith</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/11/09/signs-signs-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-12214</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first sign is clearly a sign at an actual school, probably a middle or high school, while the second sign is a sign to get across an idea for a middle or high school setting that barely exists except as examples of the exceptional school.

So this also works as an exercise in seeing how one&#039;s signage reveals one&#039;s underlying values and processes as well as one&#039;s response to objective conditions.

That said, I&#039;m still not sure how do you improve upon Please Close Door when folks will read the sign out loud and then leave the door open anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first sign is clearly a sign at an actual school, probably a middle or high school, while the second sign is a sign to get across an idea for a middle or high school setting that barely exists except as examples of the exceptional school.</p>
<p>So this also works as an exercise in seeing how one&#8217;s signage reveals one&#8217;s underlying values and processes as well as one&#8217;s response to objective conditions.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m still not sure how do you improve upon Please Close Door when folks will read the sign out loud and then leave the door open anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee LeBlanc</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/11/09/signs-signs-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-12213</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee LeBlanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might be right Molly and that&#039;s why we must have well-trained Librarians to be of service to the patronage who are most disenfranchised -whatever their condition. A sign is never going to work for them.  But, a Librarian who works with them, interpreting, suggesting and if need be instructing is most valuable. A sign is a last resort; if you&#039;re relying on signs more than a culture of service and caring, I would agree that a sign is not going to work. Signs, though, can be better designed and I like the attempt here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be right Molly and that&#8217;s why we must have well-trained Librarians to be of service to the patronage who are most disenfranchised -whatever their condition. A sign is never going to work for them.  But, a Librarian who works with them, interpreting, suggesting and if need be instructing is most valuable. A sign is a last resort; if you&#8217;re relying on signs more than a culture of service and caring, I would agree that a sign is not going to work. Signs, though, can be better designed and I like the attempt here.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would never work in a large urban library with a large patronage of mentally ill, homeless and barely literate persons. Patrons need clear instructions and not interpretive suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would never work in a large urban library with a large patronage of mentally ill, homeless and barely literate persons. Patrons need clear instructions and not interpretive suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://tametheweb.com/2009/11/09/signs-signs-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-12199</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your sign! Libraries always seem to have too many signs. I work in a hospital library in a children&#039;s hospital. People always have commented that nobody should eat in here. I say, if you are responsible, why not? Now the other day someone left there whole lunch tray...I wish I would have seen who it was. Less signs and more librarian/patron interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your sign! Libraries always seem to have too many signs. I work in a hospital library in a children&#8217;s hospital. People always have commented that nobody should eat in here. I say, if you are responsible, why not? Now the other day someone left there whole lunch tray&#8230;I wish I would have seen who it was. Less signs and more librarian/patron interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Lessun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt Lessun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did. (Well, not quite:  our current welcome sign says: Through these portals pass GCC&#039;s brightest.).  I haven&#039;t replaced it, but I have supplemented it with a modified version of your suggestion.  (Deleted the &quot;social area&quot; part as our library is tiny so the whole space has evolved into a social area.)  If anything extraordinary happens, I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did. (Well, not quite:  our current welcome sign says: Through these portals pass GCC&#8217;s brightest.).  I haven&#8217;t replaced it, but I have supplemented it with a modified version of your suggestion.  (Deleted the &#8220;social area&#8221; part as our library is tiny so the whole space has evolved into a social area.)  If anything extraordinary happens, I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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